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    Default G2R RIP ammo (saw blade?)

    More marketing hype. I would definitely worry about collateral damage. Nasty looking though.


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    That voiceover guy.

    Sounds like a cross between Sheriff John Bunnell and Solid Snake.
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    Nice machine pistols.
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    And "...in shotgun slugs." Why? Anyone actually have a problem getting a 12-gauge rifled slug through cinderblock, sheet rock, sheet metal, or four layers of denim?
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    I wish he said 38 special or 357 magnum. I wonder if they will sell the bullets alone. Regardless, they are CNC machined out of solid copper, imagine the cost per round....

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    I'm still having a tough time seeing where shooting blocks of ice and cinder blocks translates into terminal ballistic effectiveness on humans, but oh well. If these get sold and end up in a few real life shootings, it would be interesting to see the results.

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    It was ballistics gel, not ice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bockerSV View Post
    I'm still having a tough time seeing where shooting blocks of ice and cinder blocks translates into terminal ballistic effectiveness on humans, but oh well. If these get sold and end up in a few real life shootings, it would be interesting to see the results.
    They were shooting Gel and Cinder blocks to show that it leaves nasty wounds AND it is able to penetrate barriers. If you shoot a cinder block with a normal JHP it will go splat and crack the block. Their rounds were punching through.

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    I'll stick to my Federal 9BPLE rounds, there is a reason this type of stuff doesn't last long on the market
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    illegal in ny lol
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    One simple problem, you have to hit the target first.


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    if they work, it would be a great HD round for 9mm carbines like Kel-Tec's or Hi-Points.
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    Default New brutal defense ammunition.

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    So far it will be avail in 9mm, and looks like it should be hitting stores early February.

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    Just talked to some friends about this recently. They said they won't be looking into it until other people are able to test it. I agree with that stand. Not gonna run out and buy some new SD ammo on the company that's selling it's word. It is called marketing for a reason haha.
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    I would not want the prosecutor showing that bullet or video to a jury after I have to shoot some skell that broke into my house. Great looking performance but the jury will only hear how you just wanted to kill. Sad we need to think this way.
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    Nice.

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    I hope I never have to use my firearm for self defense. But if I do, I want to be hitting the threat with the most lethal round possible. I only have 7 work with! Yes, I train but in a real life situation there are many other things to factor in. If only get one hit, I want in to be lethal..

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    Goodluck getting this in NY. I doubt any stores will carry it. Also, the comments are great..

    "wow..
    i just cannot stop thinking..of how horrible it would be if this ammo gets into the hands of people who use guns for bad things....
    oh dear...."

    "Yup that's exactly what we need an even more dangerous ammunition that will get into the hands of the bad guys"

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    Honestly, a hollow point with teeth seems more of a gimmick than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VARMINT223 View Post
    One simple problem, you have to hit the target first.


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    I have heard and seen good things about barnes VOR-TX hunting rounds that are the same idea.

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    Imagine that thing opening up while traveling down the barrel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris22 View Post
    Goodluck getting this in NY. I doubt any stores will carry it. Also, the comments are great..

    "wow..
    i just cannot stop thinking..of how horrible it would be if this ammo gets into the hands of people who use guns for bad things....
    oh dear...."

    "Yup that's exactly what we need an even more dangerous ammunition that will get into the hands of the bad guys"
    Ha ha highly educated comments on ammunition.
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    Almost every time SHOT rolls around there is some kind of new 'scary looking' ammo. It's always expensive, usually just not very ballistically sound, and never sells well because most shooters know better. As the OP basically said, it's mostly just marketing hype for the ultra tacti-cool desk ninjas.

    This particular variant seems sort of silly to me, at least for what they're advertising it as. They talk about the "hole saw effect" like it should cause additional penetration by somehow cutting a hole.. but that doesn't make much sense when the barbs are clearly designed to break away. Even the gel tests in the video appear to show more of a controlled frangible effect.

    One thing I noticed right away also is how they advertise the stabilization. This web page though says that they claim the accuracy to be 2" grouping at 25yds. Assuming they're talking about controlled testing and this is the maximum accuracy (like any company would) that's.. well, that's not very good at all. Sure, 2" at 25 yards would be pretty darn good for a normal shooter firing offhand , but for controlled testing maximum accuracy.. no. That's either a mistake or this stuff does not fly very straight.
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    Nice marketing but nothing new here. Solids have been around for a long time with many terminal designs.
    With those deep serrations I see the potential for problems with many magazines and pistols.
    The fragments are too small and although broad initial wounding they lack penetration potential specially
    in presence of any heavy fabric, ballistic material or intermediate/soft barrier.





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    357SIG with light solids is a devastating but it needs full frame.
    Same with 38 super, 9x23 9x25 and other choices. speed vs.grain. speed kills.

    As you move into 40,44 and 45 and larger bore short cartriges solids start to loose their advantages.
    Here bonded (grain) is more effective and specially in short framed and compact pistols. Grain vs. speed.
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