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    Default ar15 : registration question

    do i have to register my ar15 bought kept jn pa

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    If it never ever comes across the border of NY, no. If it comes into NY, yes.
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    well it is not clear what is going to happen with the competition folks they come for the day.
    This law has more holes than a Swiss cheese.

    To the OP.. like DeGenret said, no need. What happens in vegas stays in vegas.
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    it will never come across border.soon neither will I got to leave ny any day now
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    Register it. Make sure we keep them confused. They can look for it awhile at confascation time
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    If it's in PA and will be kept there it is not required. Notice I said required
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajrocket View Post
    Register it. Make sure we keep them confused. They can look for it awhile at confascation time
    Actually the same AR can be registered by unlimited nr. of people who intend to use it. This question was answered by NYSP here in Rochester.
    So they would end up with multiple entries for a firearm that cannot be located anyway.
    But don't worry too much about registration right now. There is a year to decide and in the end the system might not even be there due to the law being nullified or the lack of funds to support these systems, processes and any enforcement.
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    Is thee a age limit on registration then? Can my kids be put on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajrocket View Post
    Is thee a age limit on registration then? Can my kids be put on?
    no one knows yet

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    Why are you guys doing this to yourself? might as well just turn them in and dont waste your time asking this. BUT, get ready when they come looking for your Bolt action hunting rifle because they decided to name them sniper rifles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowrey View Post
    Why are you guys doing this to yourself? might as well just turn them in and dont waste your time asking this. BUT, get ready when they come looking for your Bolt action hunting rifle because they decided to name them sniper rifles.
    Very true, though it doesnt hurt to ask questions. They use bolt action rifles in the military so therefore they can be classified as military style weapons, the whole basis for the anti-assault weapon movement. Guess what, they also use Pistols and Shotguns in the military. We may be able to keep our muzzle loaders though since they were around when the constitution was written. Hopefully they will lift the ban on bayonets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meketrefe View Post
    Actually the same AR can be registered by unlimited nr. of people who intend to use it. This question was answered by NYSP here in Rochester.
    So they would end up with multiple entries for a firearm that cannot be located anyway.
    But don't worry too much about registration right now. There is a year to decide and in the end the system might not even be there due to the law being nullified or the lack of funds to support these systems, processes and any enforcement.
    If this is true, i will volunteer to build an AR that every person in NY state can register as their own...

    I have a Stag second amendment lower i've been hoarding for a special purpose... can you imagine if 20,000 people register the same rifle? And IT IS THE ONLY ****ING ONE!

    That would be great.

    I could have random people on the street register it... people will sign anything i've learned... if it will get you to shut up and go away...

    I could fill it out for liberal celebrities...

    I could share a AR15 with Bono, Cher, Pink and any other one name wonders...

    I could register it for Obama too...

    Sure he lives at 1600 Penn. Ave, but what if he wants to go shooting in the ADKs???

    I wonder if we could have the Million Registration Rifle to meet the Million Moms March?

    Hmmm... deep thoughts to follow.
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    Hahaha that is awesome!!

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    What if someone registered their rifle to all 19.5 million New Yorkers? The rifle could then be legally sold/used by all non-felon NY residents?

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    Make up 1000 numbers registered to yourself and when the market on the 80% lowers comes back down build one or two at a time lol
    My guns are now at home again :-)

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    O wait don't tell anyone :-)
    My guns are now at home again :-)

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    There will probably be a fee along the way to pay for this BS.

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    Rifle: AR-15

    Evil Features: Pistol Grip, Collapsible Stock

    Registrants Name: Andrew Mark Cuomo

    Residence: Mt. Kisco, NY

    Business Address: New York State Capitol Building, Albany, NY 12224

    Business Phone: (518)- 474-8390

    E-Mail: N/A

    Home Phone: N/A

    Cell Phone: N/A
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    register it in the names of all who voted for the safe act.
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    Here's a hypothetical:

    With the new law so broad in it's definition of "Assault Weapon" you could find that not only your AR rifles need to be registered but also target ,22 rimfire rifles, turkey hunting shotguns, etc. You could have 5 or more guns needing to be registered. Since possession of five "assault weapons" is against the law, how can you do the registration since the fifth amendment says you do not have to be witness against yourself. Which by registering that many AWs is what you would be doing.

    There is nothing about any amnesty for now being in a situation like this. A couple of 22s with a hole for a thumb makes you a dangerous felon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PY-Tactical View Post
    Here's a hypothetical:

    With the new law so broad in it's definition of "Assault Weapon" you could find that not only your AR rifles need to be registered but also target ,22 rimfire rifles, turkey hunting shotguns, etc. You could have 5 or more guns needing to be registered. Since possession of five "assault weapons" is against the law, how can you do the registration since the fifth amendment says you do not have to be witness against yourself. Which by registering that many AWs is what you would be doing.

    There is nothing about any amnesty for now being in a situation like this. A couple of 22s with a hole for a thumb makes you a dangerous felon?

    PY,

    I totally missed that part about owning 5 or more AW being against the law.... Learn something new every day. Too bad this tidbit of knowledge sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1969iggy View Post
    If this is true, i will volunteer to build an AR that every person in NY state can register as their own...

    I have a Stag second amendment lower i've been hoarding for a special purpose... can you imagine if 20,000 people register the same rifle? And IT IS THE ONLY ****ING ONE!

    That would be great.

    I could have random people on the street register it... people will sign anything i've learned... if it will get you to shut up and go away...

    I could fill it out for liberal celebrities...

    I could share a AR15 with Bono, Cher, Pink and any other one name wonders...

    I could register it for Obama too...

    Sure he lives at 1600 Penn. Ave, but what if he wants to go shooting in the ADKs???

    I wonder if we could have the Million Registration Rifle to meet the Million Moms March?

    Hmmm... deep thoughts to follow.
    I think it's a great idea. If registration simply does have to happen, let us all on NYF register every weapon to everyone. They will have hundreds of registrations for each serial number. Good luck jerk offs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buell056 View Post
    PY,

    I totally missed that part about owning 5 or more AW being against the law.... Learn something new every day. Too bad this tidbit of knowledge sucks.
    Actually three is a class d felony, five is a class c felony. An "assault weapon" is a firearm under the Criminal Possession statues. SAFE did not change that.



    § 265.02 Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree.
    A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third
    degree when:
    (1) Such person commits the crime of criminal possession of a weapon
    in the fourth degree as defined in subdivision one, two, three or five
    of section 265.01, and has been previously convicted of any crime; or
    (2) Such person possesses any explosive or incendiary bomb, bombshell,
    firearm silencer, machine-gun or any other firearm or weapon simulating
    a machine-gun and which is adaptable for such use; or
    (3) Such person knowingly possesses a machine-gun, firearm, rifle or
    shotgun which has been defaced for the purpose of concealment or
    prevention of the detection of a crime or misrepresenting the identity
    of such machine-gun, firearm, rifle or shotgun; or
    (5) (i) Such person possesses three or more firearms; or (ii) such
    person possesses a firearm and has been previously convicted of a felony
    or a class A misdemeanor defined in this chapter within the five years
    immediately preceding the commission of the offense and such possession
    did not take place in the person's home or place of business; or
    (6) Such person knowingly possesses any disguised gun; or
    (7) Such person possesses an assault weapon; or
    (8) Such person possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
    Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree is a class D
    felony.




    § 265.03 Criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree.
    A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the second
    degree when:
    (1) with intent to use the same unlawfully against another, such
    person:
    (a) possesses a machine-gun; or
    (b) possesses a loaded firearm; or
    (c) possesses a disguised gun; or
    (2) such person possesses five or more firearms; or
    (3) such person possesses any loaded firearm. Such possession shall
    not, except as provided in subdivision one or seven of section 265.02 of
    this article, constitute a violation of this subdivision if such
    possession takes place in such person's home or place of business.
    Criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree is a class C
    felony.
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    Did you read the exemptions, a handgun is a "firearm" but the exemptions tell you how you can legally possess them. I know they forgot to add some exemptions when they passed the act. It was not intended to make possession of 5 illegal, it's was a technical error cause the rush to pass something.

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