Just passing along some info. There's a new group "Dedicated to removing the negative stigma surrounding the modern crossbow" You can find them at Log In | Facebook or NYCrossbowCoalition.com A little bit on why I'm passing this along, I've been bow hunting for 22 years now. Last year I had two shoulder surgeries and still have two torn tendons in my shoulder which can not be repaired. Hence I can no longer draw my Mathews Drenlin. I have looked into the draw loc which in turn makes my bow a vertical crossbow instead of horizontal whats the difference? Safety is my main concern. If anyone knows how to post those as links for i do not yet, that would be greatly appreciated. Also the was a good article written by Ed Noonan Schenectady Daily Gazette 2-23-12. Thank you in advance for the support!