Close

Results 1 to 3 of 3
  1. #1
    Corporal
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Niagara County
    Posts
    216

    Default Hidden in Obamacare

    I don't know if this could have any help for ud NY gun owners or not.

    Oops. Provision in Obamacare Forbid Dems from Restricting Guns
    01/15/13

    Yes. There really was a provision in Obamacare that forbid Democrats from restricting guns. Why? How?

    Well, Harry Reid was so worried that the NRA would put their weight against the Obamacare bill that he snuck this piece of legislation in for them.

    (c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—

    ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.— A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—

    ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully- possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or

    ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘

    (2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any in- formation relating to—

    ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

    ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

    ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

    ‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.

    Forbes reported:

    As for Reid’s reasons for burying a pro-gun measure into the body of the Affordable Care Act, the Majority Leader is said to have been concerned that the NRA planned to take an active position against the passage of Obamacare and decided, no doubt with the permission of Reid’s friend, NRA boss Wayne LaPierre, to head the problem off at the pass by putting language in the bill that would mollify the gun lobby.


    Read more at
    http://www.reagancoalition.com/artic...X5hMp1kF6Mq.99

  2. #2
    Colonel av8r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    broome
    Posts
    3,921

    Default

    and...his executive orders yesterday specifically ask congress to ignore that and go ahead and ignore FOPA as well.
    "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject"

  3. #3
    Sergeant
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Monroe County
    Posts
    406

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rebs View Post
    I don't know if this could have any help for ud NY gun owners or not.

    Oops. Provision in Obamacare Forbid Dems from Restricting Guns
    01/15/13

    Yes. There really was a provision in Obamacare that forbid Democrats from restricting guns. Why? How?

    Well, Harry Reid was so worried that the NRA would put their weight against the Obamacare bill that he snuck this piece of legislation in for them.

    (c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—

    ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.— A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—

    ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully- possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or

    ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘

    (2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any in- formation relating to—

    ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

    ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

    ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

    ‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.

    Forbes reported:

    As for Reid’s reasons for burying a pro-gun measure into the body of the Affordable Care Act, the Majority Leader is said to have been concerned that the NRA planned to take an active position against the passage of Obamacare and decided, no doubt with the permission of Reid’s friend, NRA boss Wayne LaPierre, to head the problem off at the pass by putting language in the bill that would mollify the gun lobby.


    Read more at
    http://www.reagancoalition.com/artic...X5hMp1kF6Mq.99
    If you read carefully, it says Obamacare can't be used to authorize an effort to collect or maintain gun ownership records. It says nothing about other laws being able to authorize gun registration. This is really a non-issue.

    What was announced the other day was around making sure Doctors could discuss guns and the associated risks with their patients, which I have no problem with, as long as they talk about risk mitigation as opposed to "you shouldn't have them".

    Some might disagree with me, but my doctor is tasked with keeping me and my family members alive and healthy. If the conversation goes:

    1) Do you have guns in the house
    2) Do you keep them out of the reach of children? No, well consider doing so, it would be keep your kids and you safer?
    3) Are you aware of the rules of gun safety? No, well consider taking a NRA training class on guns in the household. The rules of gun safety will help prevent you from hurting your self or others.

    I'm fine with it. Fewer accidental shootings means fewer gun regulations.

Similar Threads

  1. obamacare 2a friendly
    By 57cal in forum Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-28-2013, 04:24 AM
  2. Replies: 44
    Last Post: 11-16-2012, 06:36 PM
  3. Obamacare...Health Law Spurs Shift in Hours
    By kgun12 in forum Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 11-06-2012, 05:57 PM
  4. Supreme court upholds obamacare!
    By Darthgamer138 in forum Off-Topic
    Replies: 87
    Last Post: 06-30-2012, 08:31 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •