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    DOJ Says UN Treaty Trumps US Constitution! – The Free Patriot

    "The Department of Justice (DOJ) and Eric Holder thinks to pull a fast one on the American People.Eric Holder filed a law suit with the United States Supreme Court that says United Nations treaty trumps the US Constitution on laws in the United States."

    Can someone please put this bastard in jail already???!!!
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    traitors to the Constitution used to get a whole lot worse than just jail... its amazing what the leftists(especially, but all politicians) get away with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thecelt View Post
    traitors to the Constitution used to get a whole lot worse than just jail.
    I wish they still did. It's getting freaking ridiculous in Washington. These guys aren't even pretending to try to obey the constitution (and their oath of office) anymore. Obama was supposed to be some sort of constitutional law professor yet he and his administration are hell bent on completely trampling on the constitution. The whole lot of them should be facing at least the kind of charges that any of us would face for breaking a federal law.

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    Can we get it on a ballot to revoke his citizenship and deport him or exile him. Or I'm thinking we could make him the head of interior for bikini attol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obpr View Post
    Can we get it on a ballot to revoke his citizenship and deport him or exile him. Or I'm thinking we could make him the head of interior for nobrains attol
    there. fixed it for ya!
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    Stories like this make me want to cry. What in the hell is happening to us as a nation? Why is no one stepping up and control these American haters. Have we really become a Country full of sheep, a country of cowards? Where are the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place? Just sickening!
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    Quote Originally Posted by goperfect View Post
    Stories like this make me want to cry. What in the hell is happening to us as a nation? Why is no one stepping up and control these American haters. Have we really become a Country full of sheep, a country of cowards? Where are the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place? Just sickening!
    I'm sad to say that we the people may end up being the checks and balances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atTheWheels View Post
    I'm sad to say that we the people may end up being the checks and balances.
    We the people were supposed to be one of the checks and balances by not voting for idiots who want to trash the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARFAB View Post
    We the people were supposed to be one of the checks and balances by not voting for idiots who want to trash the country.
    Very true, but elections are so close to the point of being irrelevant.

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    What did you expect from Osama? ....was the UN treaty ratified by the Senate? Hilly Clinton has her gun-grabbing finger prints all over this.

    Chicago pols make up their own rules and a small thing like the Constitution does not present a big road block to these thugs.... The Supreme Court holds that international law is more important than US law, so that is where dear Eric got the idea.....

    The whole country has gone to hell....

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    Not saying he hasn't, wouldn't, or won't, but I cant find a legit source to confirm this. Don't all lawsuits filed with the Supreme Court appear on some list?
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    The Constitution states that
    THE CONSTITUTION
    and
    TREATIES
    Are the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND

    That is the basis of all this. It is in the Constitution. The Treaty must NOT be ratified in the Senate.

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    this is just...... wow.....

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    Oath Keepers should be all over this. My oath was to the Constitution, not the UN and its treaties that they might have agreed to. My inalienable rights endowed by The Creator cannot be taken from me by a tyrannical government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timmyp View Post
    Oath Keepers should be all over this. My oath was to the Constitution, not the UN and its treaties that they might have agreed to. My inalienable rights endowed by The Creator cannot be taken from me by a tyrannical government.
    I don't like this any better than you do, but READ THE CONSTITUTION.

    TREATIES ARE THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND

    It says so in the CONSTITUTION.

    This has to be stopped in the Senate.
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    Hey ..... the writing was on the wall since 1961. People have chosen to be passive and allow this govt to do whatever it wants. Don't think of changing things now. Welcome the country formerly known as American. Relish it!! Embrace it!! Love it!! OR ....... you could be more like me and be COMPLETELY PO'ED and start calling for the removal of the federal govt that has PROVEN to be non law abiding and anti-American as well as having undeniable ties to terrorist groups which are OUR enemies!! Your choice at this point and it WILL be the last chance you get to save this country .... or complain about it and remain passive in reality.

    I don't care WHAT the Constitution says about treaties .... it also says the govt is of the people and FOR the people .... it is not and as such, the govt itself is unconstitutional AND any treaties it engages in are NON BINDING!! It is time to either have a vote to remove Washington D.C., it's politicians, the govt of which it harbors and all that it stands for, from the Republic or find other means to be heard since they haven't listened to the American citizens in YEARS!!
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    I'm not a lawyer but I did a Google search and came up with these two articles that state that treaties do not supersede the US Constitution. Thank God! I hope this helps.

    http://www.robertwelchuniversity.org...tion-final.pdf

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    Personally, I think that this should/will be an issue in the 2014 elections. Do Americans really want to continue with the progressive agenda and make The United States of America subservient to The United Nations? Obviously this administration believes that The UN functions on higher moral grounds than the US. One Obama appointed SCOTUS judge has already stated that the Constitution of South Africa is a better model than The Constition of The United Stated. Where so we want to go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scosgt View Post
    I don't like this any better than you do, but READ THE CONSTITUTION.

    TREATIES ARE THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND

    It says so in the CONSTITUTION.

    This has to be stopped in the Senate.
    Treaties are in the Constitution and they are fine BUT a treaty can not take away a RIGHT or infringe on that right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquadoc View Post
    I'm not a lawyer but I did a Google search and came up with these two articles that state that treaties do not supersede the US Constitution. Thank God!

    http://www.robertwelchuniversity.org/Treaties and the Constitution-final.pdf

    Reid v. Covert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The key point in Reid v Covert:
    The Court found: "No agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or on any other branch of Government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution." The Court's core holding of the case is that U.S. Citizen civilians abroad have the right to Fifth Amendment and Sixth Amendment constitutional protections."

    Thus Osama cannot use the UN Arms Treaty to supercede the 2nd Amendment. The Government must act within the bounds of the Constitution in any aspect of treaty interpretation. It cannot use treaties to gain power not granted by the Constitution.
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    Scosgt: So a treaty that would undermine or circumvent the Constitution is on equal footing with the Constitution? Is that your read?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scosgt View Post
    I don't like this any better than you do, but READ THE CONSTITUTION.

    TREATIES ARE THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND

    It says so in the CONSTITUTION.

    This has to be stopped in the Senate.
    just an aside here ...

    what went wrong with the over 500 broken treaties with native americans ..???
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    This link advances the argument that treaties in fact do not trump the Constitution, and examines the Supremacy Clause:

    The Constitution vs the UN Arms Treaty | Tenth Amendment Center
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARFAB View Post
    Obama was supposed to be some sort of constitutional law professor yet he and his administration are hell bent on completely trampling on the constitution.
    To defeat your enemy, you must know thy enemy. He can't work around the Constitution without knowing it inside and out.
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