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    Default Letter from Carl Paladino to Sen. Mark Grisanti

    Pissing off big guns is not a good thing to do... letter below
    -Hard.

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    Please feel free to pass this email on to your friends and family.
    Mark,

    You are now a confirmed RINO (Republican In Name Only).

    It wasn’t always that way. Prior to being first elected you appeared to have values and a spine. Unfortunately as a political neophyte your christening in the treachery, illusion and theatrics of the most corrupt state government in America was too much to handle.

    The fact is that until the last moment you did not want to vote for the gay marriage bill but you received unbearable pressure from your campaign manager Joel Giambra. He told you that you owed him and it would look very bad to his boss, Al, the fixer, D’Amato, if he didn’t get you to vote for the bill. Cuomo had commissioned D'Amato to get him the Republican votes he needed so he could pound his chest and tell America that he could pass any liberal legislation that he pleased in New York State. You then began your slide into oblivion when you chose Cuomo over your values and threw the constituents who put you in office under the bus.

    Your reward came in the 2011-2012 election cycle when you received huge financial help ($1,600,000)(see the attached News article and contribution list) from the pigs at the trough and the gay community. You used most of the bribe money and support from the other corrupt Albany leadership insiders – Skelos, Silver and Cuomo's favorite Western New York lackey and stooge George Maziarz to get elected.

    You shocked the Republican and Conservative parties when you broke your promise to oppose gay marriage. Most people, including me, could care less about the issue. The Conservatives denied you the nomination but state RINOs pushed the county Republican party to endorse you because you were the incumbent. It was simply the lack of integrity and character, the ability to say “The hell with those who put me here, I’ll vote the way I want” that left a bad taste with me and the Republican and Conservative rank and file.

    Al D’Amato smiled and took huge fees from his lobbyist clients because Cuomo now "owed him” a big favor. Giambra kept his job and the cowardly Maziarz and Skelos were able to garner Cuomo's blessing, vote against the bill and try to keep their deniability and the illusion that they had backbones. All those theatrics are defined as the Albany 2 step.

    You don't have a clue what it is to be a representative of people. You think people voted for you so you could vote your own squirrely mind on issues. Your ego and allegiances are out of control. Many of us forgave you for your first omission and remained mum during the election. No more.

    The day of the vote on gun control I texted you and said don’t do it. Your response to me was "I know what's in it and what's not."

    Mark they know how to control you and the other impotent legislators that voted for the bill. It's the siege mentality. They stack the bill with totally off the reservation “ givebacks” and then allow vulnerable idiots like you to negotiate them out of the bill so you feel accomplishment and then think you should vote for the "compromise" bill. Why compromise on a bill that shouldn’t be in the first place? They know how to play you and make you feel important when all along it's a bad bill in the context of a highly emotional time when only a morally wanting governor would take advantage. The entire idea is bad and has nothing to do with eradicating crime on the streets. All you did was attack the second amendment and restrict the good guys with more overregulation.

    The bottom line is you let the arrogant Cuomo further his political career and satisfy his insatiable ego. It illustrates you are not capable of representing us. You have become an embarrassment and a disappointment. The moderate people of Western New York are sick of the liberal elites. They are sick of the downstate dictates and intrusions on their lives.

    You only won your first election because you ran against a complete moron. It wasn't Joel Giambra, Carl Paladino or any other nonsense. People were fed up with bad government and wanted change and that's what you spoke of during the campaign. After the election you became one of them. Some people only learn the hard way.

    No more Mark, no more. You’re done as a Republican. You’ve been itching to become a Democrat again. Go for it. Go ahead and watch how all those Reagan Democrat gun owners in your district vote considering that they now must register their rifles and ammunition.
    Mark, the elitists want to keep their guns but deny them to Joe and Josephine citizens because they think they are smarter and endure the terrible guilt of having a successful life. Tyrants desire to keep the masses dumb and disarmed. They want people to beg for mere existence. Keep them poor and on the dole, give them free ice cream and cell phones and they will continue to vote for your career in office. Is that what it’s about Mark? Are you a tyrant Mark? You play on the wrong team.

    Grisanti wins runner-up award for fundraising
    January 7, 2013 - 6:05 PM
    By Tom Precious
    ALBANY – In just his first two years in office, Sen. Mark Grisanti raised the second highest amount of campaign cash of all the 212 legislators in the state Senate and Assembly, a new report has found.

    The New York Public Interest Research Group said the Buffalo Republican raised $1.65 million in the 2011/2012 election cycle, just behind the $1.78 million taken in by the Legislature’s top money-raising politician: Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos, a Long Island Republican.

    The money raised by Grisanti – who was a major re-election worry for Republicans early on before they carved him favorable new district lines to run on – dwarfed the cash taken in by a who’s who of veteran and far more powerful list of lawmakers, including Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, NYPIRG found.

    Grisanti ranked third among lawmakers in the category of contributions -- $531,000 in his case – from individual donors as opposed to business, union or political party groups. Of the top five lawmakers in the individual donor category, four of them, including Grisanti, were Senate Republicans who supported the 2011 gay marriage legislation; NYPIRG said more than a dozen of Grisanti’s top donors were supporters of that marriage rights law.

    NYPIRG said total fundraising for legislative and party committees over the last two years totaled $85 million, down from $87 million in the previous two-year cycle.

    Businesses donated nearly 36 percent of the money, with individual donors accounting for 23 percent; unions accounted for 13 percent of donations, though that money does not include what a labor group might have spent on phone banks or mailings on behalf of a campaign. Other large categories of donations came from other politicians, party campaign accounts or directly from the legislative candidate's own money.

    Donations from Albany County, home to an industry of lobbyists and special interest groups, amounted to an average of $2.77 per resident, compared to $1.25 per resident in Erie County, the study found.

    Grisanti’s Top Contributors:
    NEW YORK STATE SENATE REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN CMTE $551,800.00
    ERIE COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY $78,000.00
    INTRUST WEALTH MANAGEMENT $33,600.00
    SINGER, ANDREW $16,800.00
    ROTH, STEVEN A $16,800.00
    LOEB, DANIEL S $16,800.00
    SINGER, PAUL $16,800.00
    ROTH, DARYL $16,800.00
    SINGER, GORDON $16,800.00
    BLOOMBERG, MICHAEL R $16,800.00
    MACDONALD, CHARLES K $16,800.00
    FRIENDS OF JIM ALESI $16,800.00
    SINGER, COREY $16,800.00
    BLANK $16,800.00
    GILL, TIM E $16,501.00
    VAN AMERINGEN, HENRY $16,500.00
    NIAGARA COUNTY REPUBLICAN CMTE $14,000.00
    LEVINE, MARK $12,500.00
    BUSINESS COUNCIL OF NEW YORK STATE $10,800.00
    BUILDING & CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL OF BUFFALO $10,500.00
    ZIFF, ROBERT $10,300.00
    SELVAGGI, FRANK R $10,300.00
    KISLAK, JONATHAN I $10,000.00
    DECHMAN, DAVID A $9,500.00
    HOUSING NEW YORK $9,000.00
    AT&T $7,750.00
    NORTHEAST REGIONAL COUNCIL OF CARPENTERS $7,500.00
    CMTE FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH $7,500.00
    SNOWDON, TED $7,125.00
    NEW YORK STATE TRIAL LAWYERS $7,000.00
    GILL, TIM G $6,500.00
    NEW YORK STATE NURSES ASSOCIATION $6,460.00
    DELAWARE NORTH COMPANIES PARKS & RESORTS $6,000.00
    1199 SEIU UNITED HEALTHCARE WORKERS EAST $6,000.00
    PLUMBERS & STEAMFITTERS LOCAL 22 $6,000.00
    NEW YORK STATE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION $6,000.00
    FRIENDS OF BETTY LITTLE $5,000.00
    SELVAGGI, FRANK A $5,000.00
    GELLER, MARTIN J $5,000.00
    GRAUER, PETER T $5,000.00
    HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN $5,000.00
    NEW YORK DENTAL ASSOCIATION $5,000.00
    NEW YORK LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS $5,000.00
    SECUNDER, THOMAS F $5,000.00
    INNOVATIVE ENERGY SYSTEMS $5,000.00
    DOCTOROFF, ALICIA $5,000.00
    TIME WARNER CABLE $5,000.00
    CAPOCCIA, DONALD A $5,000.00
    MODERN RECYCLING $4,971.00
    HARMSWORTH, ESMOND V $4,775.00
    NATIONAL FUEL GAS $4,599.00
    MANSOURI, HORMOZ $4,094.00
    OPERATING ENGINEERS LOCAL 17 $4,000.00
    NEW YORK STATE ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS $3,150.00
    MILLIKEN, WESTON F $3,094.00
    NIAGARA FALLS REDEVELOPMENT $3,080.00
    ZEMSKY, HOWARD A $3,000.00
    NEW YORK STATE CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS $3,000.00
    NEW YORK GAMING ASSOCIATION $3,000.00
    HEALTH CARE ASSOCIATION OF NEW YORK STATE $2,950.00
    WILLIAMS, CHUCK $2,850.00
    RICHARDSON MANAGEMENT $2,748.00
    SCHUSTERMAN, STACY $2,500.00
    PAREDES, ALFREDO $2,500.00
    SCOTTS CO $2,500.00
    SOREF, NATALIE $2,500.00
    HAGEDORN, JAMES $2,500.00
    TISHMAN, DANIEL R $2,500.00
    SHEA, WILLIAM $2,500.00
    WILSON ELSER MOSKOWITZ EDELMAN & DICKER $2,500.00
    BING, STEPHEN L $2,500.00
    BRADBURY, LOUIS A $2,500.00
    PAINTERS & ALLIED TRADES $2,500.00
    NEW YORK STATE LABORERS $2,500.00
    PALLADIAN HEALTH $2,500.00
    KETRY, EARL A $2,500.00
    WHELAN, ROGER W $2,427.00
    UNILAND DEVELOPMENT $2,348.00
    GRISANTI, NICHOLAS D $2,250.00
    HONEYWELL INTERNATIONAL $2,150.00
    MATTINA, JOSEPH S $2,100.00
    ANTHONE EYE CENTER $2,000.00
    ROSENKRANZ, ROBERT $2,000.00
    RENBERG, DANIEL $2,000.00
    GLOCK $2,000.00
    DOCKSIDE VILLAGE LLC $2,000.00
    ROSE, ADAM R $2,000.00
    MCDONALDS $2,000.00
    TOTAL COMMUNICATIONS INTEGRATION $2,000.00
    NEW YORK STATE PIPE TRADES ASSOCIATION $2,000.00
    TRAVELERS CASUALTY COM $2,000.00
    MASTER, CAROL $1,942.00
    CACCIOTTI, GERALD $1,900.00
    INDEPENDENT INSURANCE AGENTS & BROKERS OF NEW YORK $1,900.00
    FEATHERSTONHAUGH WILEY CLYNE & CORDO $1,900.00
    CHONOLEY, ANDREW M $1,737.00
    HEIFETZ, MEL $1,725.00
    INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS $1,645.00
    BUFFALO PROFESSIONAL FIRE FIGHTERS ASSOCIATION LOCAL 282 $1,600.00
    REINER, MICHELE $1,500.00


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    Paladino should've shown up to deliver that letter personally, with a baseball bat. LOL.

    What a shocker, Grisanti was in Bloomberg's pockets. $16,800 must've been the fee paid to those who voted for the unSAFE Act. Election day can't come fast enough. This schmuck needs to be removed from office, forcefully.
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    Great job Brother. A hell of alot of Repubs sold us out and sold out their base. Spineless and glad to see you poking his money too! They are all crooked and buying votes.

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    That was the best letter I've read in a long time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev74 View Post
    That was the best letter I've read in a long time!
    Wasn't it? I was ear to ear grin reading that. Grisanti's ******* must be the circumference of a bus after that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev74 View Post
    That was the best letter I've read in a long time!
    Too long! Glad to see someone has the b*lls!

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    Bump for being awesome!

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    It's really a shame that we have to choose between civil liberties and rights.

    If Paladino had won the election, there would be no SAFE act, but gay marriage would still be illegal in NY.

    Since Cuomo won, we have gay marriage but common sense has been made illegal.

    Both sides want to stick their nose where it doesn't belong.
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    Not to take the thread off on a tangent, but I really hope Glock asked for their $2000 back.
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    Wait....what was his problem with Maziarz?
    So far, from the correspondence I've had from him, he seems to be a politician that believes in Freedom.
    And he voted AGAINST the NY un-SAFE Act.


    Now I'm confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimscale View Post
    Wait....what was his problem with Maziarz?
    So far, from the correspondence I've had from him, he seems to be a politician that believes in Freedom.
    And he voted AGAINST the NY un-SAFE Act.


    Now I'm confused.
    Yea, never heard of him being a patsy for the libtards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evild View Post
    Yea, never heard of him being a patsy for the libtards
    The problem with Paladino is that he hates pretty much everyone. Maziarz probably brushed off Paladino a few times or told him he didn't want to be associated with him, so Paladino has lumped him in with the other patsies that don't like him.
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    They stack the bill with totally off the reservation “ givebacks” and then allow vulnerable idiots like you to negotiate them out of the bill so you feel accomplishment and then think you should vote for the "compromise" bill.
    This was the best part lol
    Tact is for people not witty enough to use sarcasm

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    If he wasn't a bigot he would have been in Cuomo's seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robhimself View Post
    If he wasn't a bigot he would have been in Cuomo's seat.
    All he needed to do was keep his mouth shut and show some self control, he's not real good at doing either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evild View Post
    All he needed to do was keep his mouth shut and show some self control, he's not real good at doing either
    I agree completely. His outburst on the reporter was forgivable IMO, his blasting homosexuals, not gonna fly in NY..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisWNY View Post
    The problem with Paladino is that he hates pretty much everyone. Maziarz probably brushed off Paladino a few times or told him he didn't want to be associated with him, so Paladino has lumped him in with the other patsies that don't like him.
    Perhaps.. but when there is a limited quantity of "spine" going around, it's hard to find people to like. We need people to stop playing games and just say "**** no!" a lot more than people have been.

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