With the State Police declining to appeal an earlier trial court decision ordering them to release the data, the number of people who have registered assault style weapons under the SAFE Act became public on Monday.
“I’m grinning from ear to ear,” said Rochester lawyer Paloma Capana, who successfully sued on behalf of a client for the information.
The bottom line: 23,847 people since the 2013 law took effect have applied to register assault style weapons. A total of 44,485 weapons have been registered.
Here’s a breakdown by county of applications to register assault weapons since Jan. 15, 2013:
Kings (Brooklyn) 54
New York (Manhattan) 1,640
Richmond (Staten Island) 52
Saint Lawrence 259
(Source: New York State Police)
And here is the court document with the registration data. Registration statistics are in the last five pages or so: NYSP Gun Stats PDF
The data had been withheld following an earlier request under the state’s Freedom of Information Law.
She had filed suit on behalf of Rochester radio host Bill Robinson under Article 78, a proceeding that allows legal actions against the state. She argued in State Supreme Court in Albany County that there was no reason the simple number of registrations should be kept secret.
The plaintiff’s FOIL was submitted on Jan. 27, 2014, and prompted the standard letter from a State Police Records Access Officer noting its receipt and promising another response within 20 days.
But then the State Police fell silent, ignoring two letters from Robinson sent in April and June. In July, he filed an appeal based on the contention that the non-response was a denial, and the judge agreed.
One of the highlights of the SAFE, or Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act is a ban on ”assault-style” weapons, which are defined as having military-type features such as a pistol grip or flash suppressor.
Weapons such as civilian versions of the M16 military rifle, or the Soviet-designed AK47 are popular examples of the guns banned under the law.
Gov. Andrew Cuomo pushed the bill though at the start of 2013, just weeks after the Newtown, Conn. school massacre.
People who already owned assault style weapons, though, were grandfathered but they were supposed to register them with the State Police in April 2014.
Critics believed that was an intrusion into their privacy, and as the logistics of tracking the registration became clear, many predicted that only a handful of people would actually register their guns.
Capanna said that appears to be the case, with fewer than 45,000 weapons being registered.
While there is no firm count, observers have estimated there could be hundreds of thousands or even a million assault-style weapons in New York.
In Connecticut, which later passed a similar registration law, 50,016 weapons have been registered.
But with a population five times that of the Nutmeg State, fewer weapons have been registered in New York, suggesting widespread non-compliance.
Additionally, local police including several county sheriffs, have opposed parts of the SAFE Act and suggested that enforcement of the registration component was not a priority.
The trial court decision, from Acting Supreme Court Justice Thomas McNamara, directed the State Police to release 15 categories of information related to the state registry, including detailed geographic breakdowns (including county and ZIP code) and the number of applications as opposed to actual registrations.
There is also a breakdown of pistols, shotguns and rifles that were registered.
Source: Times Union
“According to Bloomberg Business, gun deaths will exceed traffic fatalities in America this year. Can’t put a seatbelt on a semi-automatic,” he wrote on Twitter.
“Too many closed minds on gun control. Worse, far too many PROUDLY closed minds. Meanwhile, the American shooting gallery remains open.
“Until responsible gun owners support responsible gun control laws, innocent blood will continue to flow. How many times must we see this?”
The shooting at the historic black church, Emanuel AME Church, claimed the lives of nine parishioners. Although the gunman, who was allegedly motived by a belief in white supremacy, passed a background check when he bought his .45-caliber Glock pistol, he had recently been arrested on a misdemeanor drug charge.
“The Confederate flag flying over a state capital is disgusting, but it’s a sidetrack. The real problem comes with a 30-shot clip,” King wrote.
King expressed support for gun control measures following other tragedies. A month after the tragic shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which claimed the lives of 20 first-graders and six educators, he penned an essay calling out gun-rights advocates and the National Rifle Association.
“In the wake of the Sandy Hook shootings gun advocates have to ask themselves if their zeal to protect even the outer limits of gun ownership have anything to do with preserving the Second Amendment as a whole, or if it’s just a stubborn desire to hold onto what they have, and to hell with the collateral damage,” he wrote.
King has put his money where his mouth is. In the early 1990s he pulled a novel he wrote under a pen name in which the plot described a school shooting. Once he learned the book was been associated with shooting incidents, King allowed the novel to fall out of print.
Source :: Guns.com
Ride-hailing app company Uber says it is banning its riders and drivers from carrying guns.
Uber Technologies says it is banning firearms of any kind during rides arranged through the Uber platform, and drivers or riders who violate the rule may lose access to the platform. The rules also apply to Uber’s affiliates.
The company said Friday it changed its firearms policy on June 10 to make sure riders and drivers feel comfortable. In a statement, Uber said it made the change after reviewing feedback from both passengers and Uber drivers. Previously it had deferred to local law on the issue.
San Francisco-based Uber lets passengers summon cars through an app in more than 250 cities worldwide, and the privately held company is valued at around $40 billion. However it’s faced legal and regulatory challenges as it expands in the United States and abroad. It has also been criticized over the thoroughness of the background checks it does on drivers and other safety issues.
In April, an Uber driver with a concealed-carry permit shot a 22-year-old man who had opened fire on a group of pedestrians in Chicago. Court records say the man was shooting at pedestrians who were walking in front of the Uber driver’s vehicle, and the driver shot the gunman. The driver wasn’t charged, as prosecutors said he acted in defense of himself and others.
Competitor Lyft also has a “no weapons” policy. According to Lyft’s website, if a driver or rider is found to have a weapon in a Lyft vehicle they’ll be barred from the platform regardless of local laws on weapons possession.
With two escaped killers on the loose, the Clinton County, N.Y., clerk’s office has seen a rise in the number of requests for pistol permits.
“We typically don’t get more than one a day, but we probably have at least 12 this week,” said Mary Lavorando, of the Clinton County Clerk’s Office in Plattsburgh.
“It seems like more people have been picking up applications,” she said Friday afternoon. “But it can take eight or nine weeks for approval. So it’s kind of like locking the barn door after the horse is out.”
New York state police narrowed their search for the escapees Friday afternoon, closing in on an area along State Route 374 in the town of Plattsburgh.
Troopers said they will focus the search for David Sweat, 34, and Richard Matt, 48, on a stretch of Route 374 between General Leroy Manor Road and Rand Hill Road. The road will remain closed on that stretch until the search has been completed.
Some local residents who have armed themselves say they are growing weary of the siege mentality that has sunk into their normally-quiet communities.
Another year down! June, 2015, marks our 7th year in existence! I’d like to personally thank all of our readers, forum members and supporters for all that you’ve done to make this the best community for NY Gun Owners out there! We have a lot of great stuff in store for 2015 and we hope to keep growing at the pace we are to make things bigger and better each year for y’all!
Also, a big thank you to all of my admins and mods, especially Jeff, for helping out so much over the last 7 years. I really do appreciate it!
We are going to try and keep updating the blog with pertinent news and important articles for us here in NY, as well as some upcoming training classes, events, and even reviews on new products.
Last, but not least, we WILL be bringing back the Shooting Range Database this year to add to our blog section, giving you a great resource to find a shooting range in your area!
Have an idea for something new for the community on here? Share it in the comments below!
New York City RENT CONTROL expired at midnight last night. Assemblyman Peter Lopez, NYS Assembly District 102, has a Bill pending for FULL REPEAL of the ‘SAFE Act’ tied to rent control extensions: Bill A08215
For a bill in the NYS Legislature to become law, it must pass both the Assembly and the Senate in identical form; the Senate bill must be “same as” the Assembly bill. Therefore; a bill must be introduced in the NYS Senate that is exactly the “same as” Bill A08215.
It’s up to us! We have to make a mighty noise to the NYS Senate Republican Conference NOW!
If you can make only two phone calls; Please call Senator Flanagan: (518) 455-2071 and Senator Nozzolio: (518) 455-2366
Ask them to sponsor a “same as” bill to Assembly Bill A08215 for the FULL REPEAL of the ‘SAFE Act’ and to put it up for immediate vote.
Please also call your individual Senator and ask them to vote on the ‘same as’ bill by the end of Tuesday, June 16th.
Make your voice heard for FULL REPEAL
For more information visit scopeny.org
We have updated our NYS Gun Laws section of our website. The information we had on there was written several years ago and was basically an interpretation of the law from one of our admins. Because of the NY SAFE Act and the numerous changes that it included, we decided it would better server our readers to include the law verbatim from the NYS Penal Code website. We will try to stay on top of any updates that New York State pushes out as this can be a great resource for people who may be visiting for hunting or competition.Watch movie online The Transporter Refueled (2015)
If you have any thing else that you’d like us to add, please feel free to contact us!
Assemblyman Pete Lopez introduced a bill last Thursday that would extend New York City’s current rent laws for four years. The best part of this bill is that Part B of the legislation would repeal Chapter 1 of the Laws of 2013, also know as the NY SAFE Act.
In an interview, Lopez said that this was an attempt to draw attention to what he said was “a huge disconnect between cultures,” referring to the people that live in the five boroughs versus the people living in upstate rural New York. He said that upstate residents in general place the same importance on the preservation of Second Amendment rights that New York City dwellers reserve for the preservation of affordable housing.
Lopez also said the controversial 2013 gun control law was a failure as an attempt to stop violence, and said that he’s not ignorant of the root causes of crime.
From the justification memo for the Lopez bill:
The SAFE Act has been surrounded by controversy since its enactment in 2013. The bill, riddled with errors and omissions, was passed with no time for public input or thoughtful consideration by the Legislature. The provisions contained within the SAFE Act, have been roundly criticized as an attack on Second Amendment rights guaranteed by the United States Constitution. Consequently, it is no surprise that key provisions of the SAFE Act have not been implemented and several court cases challenging its constitutionality are pending. While many agree more needs to be done to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and those suffering from mental illness, the SAFE Act does not, and has not, addressed these societal challenges but instead has targeted law-abiding citizens who use firearms for sport and self-defense. New York City rent regulation has been equally controversial and viewed by some as a violation of private property rights of building owners. The passage of rent regulation legislation has been contentious, with the last four-year extender passed at the very close of Legislative Session in 2011. Missing from any discussion surrounding the SAFE Act has been the collective call to address the root causes of violence in our society. Understandably, urban and inner-city populations might look at a fire arm as a threat but what has been failed to be addressed is the acknowledgment that a fire arm is only a weapon when used as such. In today’s culture of violence, a rock, a stick, or even someone’s bare hands, could have the same devastating impact as a gun when used with malicious intent. The sponsor believes our collective challenge is to provide a framework that gives people hope and opportunity; in combination, education, job skills, job placement, clean decent housing, and mental health and other counseling services, can have a marked impact on shaping people’s lives. This legislation simply seeks to bring the priorities of two very different cultures to the forefront in an effort to get both sides to talk to each other both meaningfully and sincerely. It is hoped the dialogue fostered by this bill can help New Yorkers find common ground that promotes freedoms and offers protections and security to those in need.Watch movie online The Transporter Refueled (2015)
We will have to wait and see if this will gain any traction.
From WRGC (Joseph Spector, Albany Bureau Chief):
The Republican-led state Senate on Monday approved a bill that would make a variety of changes to New York’s controversial gun-control law.
The measure faces an uphill fight in the Democratic-led Assembly as Senate Republicans look to reform the SAFE Act, which Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Democrats championed when it was approved in 2013.
Among the changes would include a repeal of a requirement that every purchaser of ammunition undergo a background check. The ammunition database that was part of the SAFE Act has yet to function, and the state allocated $27.7 million in 2013 to implement the law, including the creation of the database.
The bill, introduced late Friday, is sponsored by Sen. James Seward, a central New York Republican whose district includes the major gun manufacturing plant owned by Remington Arms. The bill passed the Senate, 35-26.
“These are commonsense changes, administrative changes to the SAFE Act,” Seward said on the Senate.
Seward was one of six Republican senators from upstate who supported Sen. John Flanagan, R-Suffolk County, to succeed indicted Majority Leader Dean Skelos last month.
Flanagan, who voted for the SAFE Act, has pledged to look at possible changes to the law as a nod to the upstate members.
The bill also includes several other reforms to the law.
It would amend the law to allow for the gifting of registered semiautomatic long guns to family members, who would then be required to undergo a background check.
Another change would no longer allow for gun registrations to be made public. Currently, the gun licenses are public unless, as part of the SAFE Act, a gun owner applies to the information kept private.
The change would no longer consider the information public, yet the bill makes it explicit that statistical data on the number of registrations and recertifications would be public. Gun groups have successfully sued to have statistical information made public, but State Police have fought the requests.
Another provision of the SAFE Act that requires reporting mental-health issues involving gun owners would also be clarified. The bill would aim to make the reporting of such cases more accurate by identifying reported people, changing the guidelines and simplifying the appeal process.
Another reform would give counties and the state Division of Criminal Justice Services more oversight of the license recertification process — not State Police. The recertification is required as of 2018 every five years, but State Police handling the process instead of counties has wrangled gun-rights groups.
Sen. Daniel Squadron, D-Brooklyn, criticized the bill, saying the SAFE Act has proven successful in better reporting and monitoring gun ownership and sales.
“This bill is not a reasoned and considered amendment to the SAFE Act,” he said during the Senate debate. “This bill undermines some provisions that are working, such as the registration of ammo dealers.”
Last month, Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie, D-Bronx, doubted whether Democrats have the appetite to revisit the SAFE Act. Some Democrats want more gun-control laws.
“That would probably be very challenging, but if it comes up, we’ll bring it to the conference,” Heastie said. “But I don’t really foresee too many changes coming from us in the SAFE Act.”
Our friends over at Allstar Tactical have come out with a new options for your “assault rifles” in New York. They have introduced the “SAFEMOD” which permanently locks your magazine in place for your AR15-type rifle. Read the description from their website below:
Introducing our in-house designed SAFEMOD™ mag button. This mag button will modify your AR15 to no longer accept a detachable magazine and permanently affix an AR15 magazine in place. It works by preventing the button from being depressed once the magazine is inserted into the rifle. The SAFEMOD™ is made from aircraft-grade 6061 aluminum alloy and Type II anodized in matte black.
Included with the SAFEMOD™ is a packet of epoxy to make the modification permanent. These are available for the reasonable price of $18, and for a limited time, you can add a second one for just $12 (2 for $30).
Installation is a snap. Just remove your old magazine release button and replace it with ours. Use the two included 18-8 stainless steel set screws and bottom them out into the button. Finally use the included epoxy to backfill in the holes. You now have an AR15 variant rifle that is no longer capable of accepting a detachable magazine.
This seems like it would be a great option for owners to not have to register their rifles or worry about the amount of “Evil Features.” Unfortunately, per their website, they have not received an official letter by the NY State Police.
According to the NY SAFE ACT from the NYS Governor’s website on the SAFE ACT, “Rifles requiring registration are: Semiautomatic rifles capable of receiving a detachable magazines.” According to this definition of the law, but removing the capability of the rifle to receive “a detachable magazines” you no longer have to register the rifle and the banned features do not apply.
Remember, this is our interpretation of the law and we cannot be held responsible for a law enforcement official’s misinterpretation of the law or the legality of this product. We are working diligently to get word from the NYS Troopers that will assure us that this modification does in fact make your rifle legal.
At just $18, or 2 for $30, it’s worth taking a look at as an option for making your rifle legal in New York State. Check it out over on their website here: Allstar Tactical SAFEMOD Mag Button.
Recently one of our members was applying for his Pistol Permit in Watervliet, NY. The application packet contained the form displayed above which no government should ask of its citizenry. This form asked for their Facebook Login Credentials and password.
This creates a major issue on Constitutional grounds as this could mean violation of the First, Second and Fourth Amendments of our Constitution. Why should someones right to free speech on such a platform as social media have anything to do with their right to keep and bear arms. Two rights which are guaranteed to all individuals of this great nation by the First and Second amendments. As far as fourth amendment violations – this is about the blatant illegal search of ones papers and effects. Essentially they are strong arming people to consent to their illegal search, as it may affect their applications approval. Where I come from – that’s extortion.
One of our forum members contacted the Watervliet Police Department about this form:
“Mr. XXXX, that form was erroneously included in the package we provide for pistol permits. It is an internal form that we utilize during interviews and should not have been included in the package. It has since been removed. It is, however, a common practice to view social media as a means to identify and determine character of a pistol permit applicant, in addition to other investigatory methods. We apologize for the confusion.”
“Typically all we ask is that an applicant access their account during an interview.”
The Watervliet Police Department blatantly states they will ask you to log on to your Facebook for them to search through it, and if you decline – such information is no doubt handed up to the judge deciding yes or no on your application.
The question remains – How many people actually gave into this blatant violation of their rights when applying for a Pistol permit?
A concerned group of Rochester citizens will be holding a repeal the safe act rally, at Cobbs Hill Park, Rochester, NY on July 26, 2014!
Speakers will begin at 12:15! So be there around 11:45 to be sure you have the chance to hear everyone talk, get some food, enter our raffles, and check out all the cool local patriot businesses!!
(Officially sponsored by Tim Dean’s ‘ROC THE VOTE’ Timothy Dean for Congress in 2014)
Official Speaker Line Up:
25th District Congressional Candidate Timothy Bones Dean
138th District Assembly Candidate Peter Vazquez
108th District Assembly Candidate Carl R. Gottstein Jr.
Chief Executive Of S.C.O.P.E. Stephen J Aldstadt
44th District Senate Candidate Ricky Mollenkopf
62nd District Senate candidate Gia Marie Arnold
24th District Congressional Candidate John Katko
CEO of Allstar Tactical, Founder of NYFirearms.com MIKE CENTOLA
PANDA C.E.O. Daniel Johnson
New York State Governor Candidate Michael McDermott
Mother Of Seal Team 6 Veteran & Political Activist Karen Vaughn
Hey everyone would love to spread some promotions to a great Local New York company
The Firing Pin – Gun Range and Gun Store Located in Bergen NY
Monster Hots – Food Cart
http://www.2adefender.com/ They not only donated two flags to our rally, but their products are awesome, and offer lots of great Patriot gear!! Please go check them out!!
Firearms Appreciation Month is back for 2014 and this time it is coming back with a bang! Not only are we doing an awesome FAM t-shirt this year, but we are also hosting a truly EPIC event. Once again, NYFirearms.com is the biggest firearms website in New York State and we’re dedicated to supporting the second amendment in this state. Again, throughout September we will be promoting firearms appreciation, awareness, safety, and knowledge. We will be posting some great blog posts throughout the month as well as having some great articles from guest bloggers.
Many of the sponsors on our site will be offering special discounts on their products and services throughout the month as well, so make sure you check them out! Additionally, we’ll be giving away some NYF swag each week in September.
Now onto the information about our Firearms Appreciation Month Shindig. We have teamed up with some great people in the industry to make this a day to remember!! This event will be held at the Ontario Rod & Gun Club on September 27th, from 8AM to 630PM. For just $25 you can get yourself a ticket to this event, and we’re offering some other special options to purchase 2014 FAM goods with your ticket! Head over to the Events section on the NYF Store for more info!
PRECISION RIFLE COMPETITION – Get a chance to get behind one of the new prototype Allstar Tactical 700AT rifles and put 3 rounds down range for score and a chance to win an awesome prize (TBD).
INTRO TO COMBAT FOCUS SHOOTING – Deryck Poole of Echo-5 Training Group will be there giving an Intro to CFS seminar with some great introductory knowledge about the program!
TOUGH SHOT – Andy from ToughShot will be there running a TS training event where you can get some fitness and tactical training in!
SEMI-AUTO / PUMP SHOTTY SPEED COMPETITION – Get behind a semi-automatic and pump 12GA shotgun and knock down 10 steel targets as fast as you can! The top 3 fastest times on each type will win prizes (TBD)!
STEAK DINNER – Get a meal with a nice freshly cooked steak while hanging out at the range!
VENDOR ROW – Visit several different sponsors and vendors where you can get some exclusive NYF deals on products and merchandise.
AFTER PARTY – After the event is over, join us at the local pub for some brewskis and to talk firearms!
RESERVE YOUR TICKETS ASAP. THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT! GET YOUR TICKETS HERE.
2014 FIREARMS APPRECIATION MONTH SPONSORS
Dark Storm Industries
Echo-5 Training Group
Firearms Training of Western NY
Four Guys Guns & FGG Store
Inked Up GunFighter
Long Gun Training LLC
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Ontario Rod & Gun Club
Red Stitch Tactical
Snake Hound Machine
The Firing Pin LLC
It’s once again that time of year where the firearms industry travels to Las Vegas for the annual Shooting, Hunting and Outdoors Trade (SHOT) Show. We will be attending once again and hope to provide some updated coverage for those of you back home. We will be visiting some booths and asking what they think about the NY SAFE ACT and how it will impact their ability to sell in NY. We also hope to visit NY-based manufacturing companies like ATI, Remington, Allstar Tactical, and more.
Stay tuned as we add some great content!
Below you’ll find an updated image of counties that have passed resolutions against the NY SAFE Act and those that are pending. As you can see a very LARGE majority of the state has spoken out against the SAFE act.