Shots fired at Crossgates Mall

[Delmar]

crazy buts it's happening right now. Can't be though that's a gun free zone

[Twogunwilly]

My Niece and nephew were there with my ex-BIL.

[Delmar]

It's sounds like no injuries. Crazy

[capitalcrew]

Gang fight. Scumbags. Luckily they didn't kill anyone.

This situation made me wonder as a CCW holder what I would have done if I was right there when it happened. In this situation I guess the thing to do is take cover. They're not shooting at me or any other innocent bystander. Do I add more potentially stray gunfire? Do I shoot one guy and end up with the others running away? They're obviously not threatening my life directly and shooting one of these jackasses would have just ended with me in jail. Who knows. I think taking cover would be the best option. Anyone else?

[Delmar]

I think cover would be the legal thing to do. Unless you saw them aiming at an innocent bystander. I think w cover you would have been w others and you could have been ready to protect them if the need arrived

[capitalcrew]

Agreed. I always think about these situations and what I would do etc but this one caught me pretty off guard. I've never considered there would be two gangs shooting at each other in the mall. It's crazy. I was there the night before for a comedy show.

[Delmar]

Looks like they caught a guy moments ago

[DVC]

Craziness!!! I also wonder what I would do, what route I would take. I also agree taking cover at least until I could figure out where incoming fire is coming from, who or what the threat is, are innocent bystanders in harms way, and if I can......etc...... These are questions. this is why we train and not only train but think of scenarios that are applicable or (Could happens, most likely to happen) etc..... putting down boucoup bad guys trying to wreak havoc on innocent people doesn't sound too bad though.

[Karl in NY]

When I was still on the job, we called that "the trash taking out the trash"...it totally skews gun-death statistics for the US in general.

It's usually about turf, or "you disrespected me"...if I killed everyone who disrespected me, the body-count would be in the hundreds.

But, it's ghetto culture, or ghetto DNA. Like starting a race riot on a CDTA bus, then calling Al Sharpton to play the race card for you.
Is there a verdict in that case yet? I think trial started Monday, but I haven't seen any updates.

[nocontest]

how do you know the guy taking fire isnt innocent. i hate scumbags as much as anyone but if we dont stand up for him, then when some leftie fire bombs one of our cars because we r just rifle wielding scumbags that would be fine. like free speech. even if i vehemently disagree i still stand for your right to say it.

edit: do we fail to preserve life when its black on black or because of clothing?whats the determining factor here?