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    Hi Folks,

    New here, however feel that firearm ownership has been taking a beating by the media lately. I saw a hot pink gun like this online and had a thought. If the media, Youtube channels, FPSRussia, etc.. showed pictures of these hot pink guns, how important do you think passing gun bans would be to the public? How much ammunition would politicians have to use in their media circus demonizing firearms?

    A hot pink gun is much more accepting then a scary black one.








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    IMO a pink gun is as dumb as it gets. Is a GUN, not a frikking toy or something should look cute or toy like.
    A gun deserve respect, in the wrong (or dumb) hands can be deadly.
    IMHO again, big part of the blame on gun are the trigger happy and stupid laws that justifies the killing of ahuman being just because you got "scare".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanjo_NY View Post
    IMO a pink gun is as dumb as it gets. Is a GUN, not a frikking toy or something should look cute or toy like.
    A gun deserve respect, in the wrong (or dumb) hands can be deadly.
    IMHO again, big part of the blame on gun are the trigger happy and stupid laws that justifies the killing of ahuman being just because you got "scare".
    How does modifying the look of a rifle merely for asthetic pleasure indicate one has less respect for it as a weapon? Do folks that modify the look of their car instantly drive it more recklessly? Insinuating that features of a weapon likely make the user more irresponsible with said weapon is exactly what we are fighting isnt it?

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    The for the children crowd will just have more ammo, they will say you are promoting real guns to kids as toys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Shogun View Post
    How does modifying the look of a rifle merely for asthetic pleasure indicate one has less respect for it as a weapon? Do folks that modify the look of their car instantly drive it more recklessly? Insinuating that features of a weapon likely make the user more irresponsible with said weapon is exactly what we are fighting isnt it?
    that's my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieZ View Post
    The for the children crowd will just have more ammo, they will say you are promoting real guns to kids as toys.
    That's an interesting and probably valid possible outcome. It would be interesting to see what a poll asking non gun owners what they believe is more threatening . The colorful or the straight black gun?

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    My daughter want hot pink on all her firearm, so be it. My holster is pink, lost many family members to cancer. I've even done pink safety levers for members. Knowledge is key, color doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanjo_NY View Post
    that's my opinion.

    Your opinion seems scarily in line with the current state and federal administrations. My condolences.

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    And red cars are more dangerous because they look fast....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Shogun View Post
    Your opinion seems scarily in line with the current state and federal administrations. My condolences.
    sure, thanks.

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    NYC has banned "non traditional" colored guns.

    That should tell you the validity of dislike for them.
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    It's a little different. As long as it isn't Blaze Orange or Neon Yellow (less than lethal colors), then I'm all ok w/ color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanjo_NY View Post
    IMO a pink gun is as dumb as it gets. Is a GUN, not a frikking toy or something should look cute or toy like.
    A gun deserve respect, in the wrong (or dumb) hands can be deadly.
    IMHO again, big part of the blame on gun are the trigger happy and stupid laws that justifies the killing of ahuman being just because you got "scare".
    You make some good points. I'm pointing out that media frequently makes use of the scariest (and probably worst performing) firearms in all of their stories. This especially holds true when politicians are pushing agenda to introduce more restrictive gun laws. The media also picks crazy lunatics in militia fatigue to interview during pro-gun events in hopes of purposely swaying public opinion to the anti-gun viewpoint. The general public, which has little firearm experience, gets extremely frightened of these images. I was pointing out that perhaps changing the color of a gun may change perception, however as someone pointed out it may also have a reverse effect on parents of children. In this day in age, positive PR, clever marketing and savy sales skills are required to effectively communicate a message to the public. The hot pink gun, whether wrong or right, was just used as an example to bring attention to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgamer138 View Post
    NYC has banned "non traditional" colored guns.

    That should tell you the validity of dislike for them.
    Is this factual or simply a joke? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by nixon8890 View Post
    Is this factual or simply a joke? Thanks
    "(3) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess a deceptively colored firearm, rifle, shotgun, or assault weapon or a deceptive coloring product except as authorized by paragraph five or six of this subdivision or for any person to attempt to possess a deceptively colored firearm, rifle, shotgun, or assault weapon or a deceptive coloring product except as authorized by paragraph six of this subdivision. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/1/10-131#sthash.F5Bt8Ty8.dpuf"

    Now, this MAY have been overturned, can't seem to find a straight answer, but I remember a firearms dipping company releasing special "NYC Named Colors" to give NYC the middle finger because of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgamer138 View Post
    "(3) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess a deceptively colored firearm, rifle, shotgun, or assault weapon or a deceptive coloring product except as authorized by paragraph five or six of this subdivision or for any person to attempt to possess a deceptively colored firearm, rifle, shotgun, or assault weapon or a deceptive coloring product except as authorized by paragraph six of this subdivision. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/1/10-131#sthash.F5Bt8Ty8.dpuf"

    Now, this MAY have been overturned, can't seem to find a straight answer, but I remember a firearms dipping company releasing special "NYC Named Colors" to give NYC the middle finger because of this.
    It's absolutely outrageous that such broad and ambiguous language could legally be added. Is this new?

    My suspicion is that the intended wording is to target camouflage (without outright naming it), however it is so broad that a deceptive color is ultimately left up to the officer and court system. Does anyone have more information on this? Have there been colors defined as accepted? Have there been cases of colors being deemed deceptive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgamer138 View Post
    "(3) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess a deceptively colored firearm, rifle, shotgun, or assault weapon or a deceptive coloring product except as authorized by paragraph five or six of this subdivision or for any person to attempt to possess a deceptively colored firearm, rifle, shotgun, or assault weapon or a deceptive coloring product except as authorized by paragraph six of this subdivision. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/1/10-131#sthash.F5Bt8Ty8.dpuf"

    Now, this MAY have been overturned, can't seem to find a straight answer, but I remember a firearms dipping company releasing special "NYC Named Colors" to give NYC the middle finger because of this.
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    Other than making the firearm have an orange ring on the end of the barrel, i haven't heard anything about illegal "colors".

    The idea that making a real firearm look like a fake is illegal i have no problem with, but if you want to tell me what color/camo pattern i can use then GTFO of my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgamer138 View Post
    "(3) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess a deceptively colored firearm, rifle, shotgun, or assault weapon or a deceptive coloring product except as authorized by paragraph five or six of this subdivision or for any person to attempt to possess a deceptively colored firearm, rifle, shotgun, or assault weapon or a deceptive coloring product except as authorized by paragraph six of this subdivision. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/1/10-131#sthash.F5Bt8Ty8.dpuf"

    Now, this MAY have been overturned, can't seem to find a straight answer, but I remember a firearms dipping company releasing special "NYC Named Colors" to give NYC the middle finger because of this.
    Interesting. Has anyone here seen a "bright" colored handgun or long gun in gun shows or any lgs here in NY? Now that I think about it I have yet to come across one. (od does not count). ???
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    This is an interesting law and other relevant parts quoted below. I can see the benefit of such a law especially when considering children, however it can be argued children should be safeguarded from handguns in the first place. I also suspect if a police officer has a gun pointed at them, whether black or hot pink, their reaction will be the same. A fair compromise in this situation is to follow the laws placed into effect years ago. Paint toy guns with a red barrel tip and real guns are left black tipped. The gun tip is what is ultimate visible. I would also like to know how many cases of police officers shooting young children with toy guns have ever occurred.

    "The Legislature of Nassau County hereby finds that deceptively colored handguns pose a danger to law enforcement personnel and the general public. These real guns, when painted with nontraditional handgun colors, resemble toy guns, and can confuse police officers and the general public. Law enforcement officers who sometimes must make split second decisions on the use of force could perceive a deceptively colored real handgun to be a toy and be seriously injured or killed. A child may mistakenly attempt to play with a brightly colored real handgun and seriously injure themselves or others. As such, the legislature declares that the purpose of this local law is to safeguard the public from the unreasonable risk of death and injury that may result when real handguns are mistaken for toys by banning the distribution and possession in Nassau County of deceptively colored handguns"

    "The term “deceptively colored handgun” shall include any handgun which has a substantial portion of its exterior surface colored any color other than black, grey, silver, steel, nickel or army green. A substantial portion of the exterior surface of a handgun shall be considered to be colored any color other than black, grey, silver, steel, nickel, or army green if such other color is used either alone or as the predominant color in combination with other colors in any pattern; provided, however, that a handgun shall not be deemed to be a deceptively colored handgun merely because its handle is composed of ivory, colored so as to appear to be composed of ivory, composed of wood, or colored so as to appear to be composed of wood."

    Note that the above description makes sure to restrict use of camouflage colored guns. Typical camouflage does not fall into the color combination list. Clever clever.

    "The term“substantial portion of the exterior surface of a handgun”shall mean: (1) at least twenty five percent of the entire exterior surface area of a handgun; or (2) the exterior surface of either the receiver or the slide of a handgun."

    The last paragraph makes it clear. Painting your gun to look cool and perhaps a bit more innocent in the eyes of the public is restricted. Perhaps an effort of the anti-gun group attempting kill efforts of pro-gun groups seeking to improve the public's perceived image of gun ownership.
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    I think a colored firearm is fine regardless of color (excluding less than lethal colors). Its just a way to customize your personal property, weather it be, pink, a skull wrap, blue, an anodized metal, stickers all over the place. Its simply customization, it says "this gun is mine" Its really no different than putting a FUAC dust cover on your rifle, or punisher logos, or "zombie killer" phrases all over. Its simply customization. Whos to say pink isnt aloud, but adding words or skulls to your rifle is ok. Is it only ok to add FUAC, and Skulls, Zombie killer, and other add ons to the gun because they add to the "deadly" look? Think about it, and if your ok with one, but not the other... well you my friend should probably rethink. (not aimed at anyone in particular)

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