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    Default Breaking Compliant rifles being tracked and confiscated?

    This could be what we have been waiting for.

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    How bought some more info jem45472.

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    Can't get the live audio to play. Anybody care to post a summary?

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    Talking about it right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosegun View Post
    Talking about it right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNSICK1 View Post
    How bought some more info jem45472.
    Sorry, phones not cooperating right now.

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    Why can't Tom stay on topic. holy crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by atTheWheels View Post
    Can't get the live audio to play. Anybody care to post a summary?
    Joseph Palumbo, co-owner of the Albion Gun Shop, released information today that New York State Police officers from the Narcotics Enforcement Unit demanded the shop’s release of all customers who purchased New York SAFE Act compliant rifles under threat of a warrantless SWAT Team Raid.

    Since the passing of the Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (S.A.F.E.) Act, the New York State Troopers Narcotics Enforcement Unit has been delegated to enforce the S.A.F.E. Act and to handle all matters pertaining to the S.A.F.E. Act.

    This unit has visited Mr. Palumbo on several occasions, disrupting his business, to see that Mr. Palumbo is compliant with the S.A.F.E. act provisions for licensed gun shops owners.

    *****“The New York State Police told me that my guns were NY S.A.F.E. compliant. The chief of the Medina police told me my rifles were NY S.A.F.E. compliant and in fact purchased one of the guns from my shop.” James D. Tresmond, attorney for the Albion Gun Shop, raised the possibility of entrapment. “My client disclosed to me that he would not have sold these rifles to the general public had they not been approved by the New York Division of State Police”*****

    Meanwhile, a confidential informant from within the state police released an email from New York State Police Division Counsel Kevin Bruen which insinuates that police department itself cannot understand the S.A.F.E. Act itself. The email, which was a response to a state trooper’s inquiry as to whether modified rifles were New York S.A.F.E. compliant. Division Counsel ordered that “a court would have to rule on the legality of these rifles”

    “The New York S.A.F.E. Act is being enforced arbitrarily on a case by case basis,” Tresmond said. “That amounts to unconstitutional vagueness under the Supreme Court’s Morales standard, and the law should be enjoined for that reason alone.”

    Mr. Palumbo, concerned that his license to sell firearms in New York may be affected by recent solicitation by the New York State Trooper Narcotics Enforcement Unit, has retained Tresmond Law to represent him in all legal matters concerning any possible investigation or litigation made by the New York State Narcotics Enforcement Unit regarding his business.

    Mr. Palumbo opened up the Albion Gun Shop in 2012 and it is through this business that he makes his livelihood.

    The Albion Gun Shop intends to take immediate legal action tomorrow morning to remedy this problem.

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    crumby situation all the way around, but really no surprises here to be honest. well except for the fact that it was the freakin' narcotics enforcement unit, that's bizzaro to me.

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    I only hate Cuomo and a few more people more than Baurle but he will get a listen from me right now.

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    they have no lawful way to "confiscate"
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    "register"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG flash View Post
    crumby situation all the way around, but really no surprises here to be honest. well except for the fact that it was the freakin' narcotics enforcement unit, that's bizzaro to me.
    Yeah, Why would narcotics be involved? Blew their budget and looking for new hardware?

    Another thing, The shop owner turned over anything without a warrant?

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    Nothing happens without orders from Cuomo's office. Must be the emperor has decided it a savvy political move to clamp down at this time. Pressing upstate to show his constituents down state how tough he is and gain votes and poll numbers. It is all political gamesmanship.
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    I can't listen now, but pics on his Facebook page look like bullet buttons.
    This is going to get interesting.

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    he was following orders too FUAC


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    Quote Originally Posted by atTheWheels View Post
    Yeah, Why would narcotics be involved? Blew their budget and looking for new hardware?

    Another thing, The shop owner turned over anything without a warrant?
    He hasn't turned anything over, and called the Tresmonds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jem45472 View Post
    I can't listen now, but pics on his Facebook page look like bullet buttons.
    This is going to get interesting.
    Yes, bullet button. He was told by multiple LE agencies that it was good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jem45472 View Post
    I can't listen now, but pics on his Facebook page look like bullet buttons.
    This is going to get interesting.
    Gunshop owner said his compliant guns used the bullet button. He says on the radio that there are Finger Lakes shops that used the AR-MR2 that will also be gone after.

    Like I stated above, this happens right before the primaries. What a coincidence huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atTheWheels View Post
    Yeah, Why would narcotics be involved? Blew their budget and looking for new hardware?

    Another thing, The shop owner turned over anything without a warrant?
    sounds like he said he would, the narc guy gave him 24 hours, and so the shop owner lawyered up as soon as they left. so it doesn't sound like anything was handed over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camper4lyfe View Post
    He hasn't turned anything over, and called the Tresmonds.
    I was under the impression he gave them names and the NYSP told him today they needed numbers as well. My bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by PY-Tactical View Post
    Gunshop owner said his compliant guns used the bullet button. He says on the radio that there are Finger Lakes shops that used the AR-MR2 that will also be gone after.

    Like I stated above, this happens right before the primaries. What a coincidence huh?
    Just think how many lives are being saved.
    He has my vote. ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by PY-Tactical View Post
    Gunshop owner said his compliant guns used the bullet button. He says on the radio that there are Finger Lakes shops that used the AR-MR2 that will also be gone after.

    Like I stated above, this happens right before the primaries. What a coincidence huh?
    I expected this AFTER the primaries/November. This is going to hurt his chances even more.
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    This is Andy trying to show the far left that he is with them on gun control, sign of a coward becuse teachout is a Danger to his whitehouse asperations.
    Andy you can forget the white house your blood is not blue enghouh for that.
    Last edited by mrod; 09-02-2014 at 05:00 PM.

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